Journey Only By God's Grace w/ Jodian Hutchinson

Today's conversation with Jodian is so heartwarming and packed with insights that can help to heal and propel you into the journey of surrendering all to Christ.

What if the doorway to your purpose sits on the other side of grief, obedience, and a leap you never planned to take? We sit down with author, life coach, and NLP practitioner Jodian Hutchinson to explore a courageous journey from rejection and loss to healing, clarity, and a faith that moves her life forward. Her testimony is raw and hope-filled: writing became therapy, obedience relocated her from Jamaica to Florida, and surrender turned broken moments into fresh color outside the crayon box.

We unpack the identity shift from “black sheep” to chosen, and how telling the truth on paper exposes patterns we’ve excused for years. Jodian shares the heartbreak of miscarriage and the confronting realization of hidden idols, then shows how surrender transformed anger into alignment. The “Abraham moment” of moving into the unknown cost comfort and proximity, yet rebuilt endurance and trust. Along the way, a simple phrase—broken crayons still color—becomes a lens for seeing beauty in what once felt unusable.

Then we get practical. As a certified life coach and NLP practitioner, Jodian breaks down how renewing the mind works at ground level: reframing thoughts, changing language, and healing behaviors shaped by trauma. We talk about teens acting out, adults carrying teenage wounds, and how spiritual formation and mental tools work together to dismantle shame and build capacity for the blessings we pray for—especially in love, boundaries, and readiness for a partner who truly reflects Christlike care.

If you’re wrestling with a hard yes, grieving a closed door, or craving a reset that sticks, this conversation offers both compass and courage. Subscribe, share with a friend who needs hope today, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway so we can keep bringing more stories that heal and build.

Go and get her book on Amazon and the platforms named earlier: Journey Only By God’s Grace by Jodian Hutchinson: https://www.amazon.com/JOURNEY-Only-Grace-Jodian-Hutchinson/dp/B0F6NZMPWR

Chapters

• 0:09 Welcome And Guest Introduction
• 2:07 From Low Self-Worth To Calling
• 3:57 Writing As Therapy And Healing
• 8:45 The Abraham Move From Jamaica
• 10:55 Broken Crayons Still Color
• 12:20 Obedience, Family, And Costly Choices
• 15:27 Miscarriage, Idols, And Surrender
• 20:55 Life Coaching And NLP Purpose
• 26:25 Love, Boundaries, And Becoming Ready
• 31:05 Final Encouragement And Prayer

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:09

Hi everyone, welcome. Thank you for joining us today on our position for conversations with collector podcasts. I'm your host, Collect Momia, a podcast of woman of peace, topic of me card and the podcast of me and the heartback. In the mouth, in the heartbits, in the post and card, in the heart of the card, it's not the old thing to work with the code. According to welcome back to another episode of Professor for Purpose Conversations with Caleb Mommy. Today I have a very exciting book that I want to introduce you to copy with my friend and sister in Christ. Enjoy our cooking on a life code, certified MFP practitioner author and entrepreneur based in South Florida. She's a fond of murder marketing and the visionary behind Mountain Overcomers, a ministry empowering women to heal and arise to faith and community. Jodian is also the creator of the inspirational marriage line God Dreak Me Up, a reflection of her bold walk with God. Through her book, Journey Only by God's Grace and Her Coaching, she inspires others to embrace purpose, healing, and transformation with authenticity and faith. Jodian, welcome. I'm so glad to have you with us.

SPEAKER_03: 1:57

It's an honor to be here. Thanks for the invite.

SPEAKER_01: 2:01

I want to get right into it to let our listeners know about who Jodi is. Outside of the hearts of Entrepreneur, Life Coach, NLP, practitioner, mother, entrepreneur. Who are you, Jodi?

SPEAKER_03: 2:17

I'm a good sense of you, my outgoing person to be around, straight, encourager, you know, uplifting personal positivity, no negativity around me. I am that outgoing, fun person. Love to go out, fashionista, and all that.

SPEAKER_01: 2:41

So we hear that you're a woman of faith, with resilience, one who builds and encourages others, a fashionista who you are. When did you when did you discover who you are? The person you believe God has called you to be.

SPEAKER_03: 2:58

I would say I started to discover it, discover it 2022, but inside bar, you know, in between disbelief. So I would just self self-limited. So I was like, no, you know, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't think I was worthy. Why why would God have me? You know, the least of the bunch, like a like a saw, a rahab. No, God, you know, an outcast, a black sheep. Why would God choose me? Why I counted myself out?

SPEAKER_01: 3:37

So you counted yourself out. You saw yourself as a black sheep, as someone who nobody wants, God didn't see, God didn't have any plan or purpose for your life, no one that has value, right? Was that part of the reason why you decided to write this journey only by God's grace? No, that that the writing, the writing was all God.

SPEAKER_03: 4:00

It wasn't it was definitely I'm not my I'm just a vessel putting the pen to the paper, but I can't take no accountability for that, for that, for the book, because being in a broken place, coming from a person's self-esteem was low, no confidence level, you know. I was like, you know, the lady that they speak about in, I think it's Luke 13, I don't remember exactly where, but that she walked bend, she always walked looking on the ground, she never looked up because she was the spirit that that was that that enabled her to walk, to not walk upward. That was like me, you know, and I I wasn't worthy. So me writing, I never saw myself as an author. If you told me 10 years ago, I would have laughed you. If you where I am at now, if you had told me 10 years ago, I'd tell you you're crazy.

SPEAKER_01: 4:56

I want to go back to something that you said, right? How often as a woman and even as women of faith, we see ourselves as less than as people who are not worthy. We are called and and and we see ourselves as the black sheep in our families, and with that we count ourselves out, and others count us out as well. But what I like about what you're saying is that you didn't write a book from that from that place. God caused you to be healed and in a place of healing, then He would want to birth something to you because I've heard you know people talk about you know not wanting to be bleeding on pages and stuff, so you're right from a place of of healing, so you're recounting and recapping something that you have been through. And so I want to give our readers an insight into what the book is about, journey only by God's grace. It's a heartfelt and transparent reflection of one woman's walk with God, from brokenness to boldness, from silence to surrender. Jodian shares her real-life experience with spiritual battles, healing, and transformation, through powerful insights, biblical reflections, and personal testimonies, including her Abraham moment of leaving Jamaica, a life-changing baptism, and mountain top revelations, Jodian invites readers to look inward, trust God deeply, and push past fear and self-doubt. So whether you're battling pain, searching for direction, or ready for a breakthrough, this journey will stir your faith and inspire you to move forward, knowing you're never alone. Jodi, based off this, right? I want you to tell me when was that moment when you felt that God wanted you to write this book?

SPEAKER_03: 6:58

It was it was 2021 or 2022. I don't, I'm not sure. But I was on stage 441 and pro one. And I was in I was in Av and I was on the phone with my friend, my sister in Christ. And I said to her, she she tells me that I have this thing that the law will drop something in my spirit. I just open my mouth and I release it, not even realizing. And I just find something and I opened my mouth and I said, Why do I why do my life feel like I am writing a book? And she said to me, Start to write. And that is when I started to write, but go back to what you said. The book was my therapy through the whole thing. Because when you're going through something, and you know, sometimes with our belief, Jamaican belief background, if you see a therapist, you're you're considered crazy. But my writing was my therapy because I I had intervals with my writing. There were times that I could not read what I wrote because it there was so much pain coming from what I read, and I was like, this is what I'm I've been going through. So really going through it and having it on paper and writing and writing it down and reading it back, it's really it's it's therapy, it was therapy for me, it was therapy for me.

SPEAKER_01: 8:25

So that that book, writing that book, was my therapy through the Holy Ghost, and he said, right, right, ah, chapter one opens up with the Abraham experience. Tell us about that, right?

SPEAKER_03: 8:45

Being a Kingstonian, a real Kingston. If you're a Kingston, you understand being in Kingston or in business, or even if you're at a Jamaican, New York, Jamaica, that busyness, that that's the kind of girl I was. I love the business. I don't like to be confined. So being in Florida, it caused me to be confined, but the Lord will slow it down a little bit. I need to speak to you, I need your attention. So he had to carry me somewhere that I did not because I was here already in 27, and it was like for two weeks. It was like two years, and I swore blind that I would not come back to Florida.

SPEAKER_01: 9:29

Oh my gosh. What have you been learning? Or what have you learned through that Abrahamic experience? What does that look like, Judy?

SPEAKER_03: 9:47

Oh my god. Oh, listen about broken crayons. Silicon colour, broken crayons, silk and colour. And he can melt them back, and he can get he can get a colour that is not in the crayon box. You stand out, you're different from the rest of the colors. You might even find purple, it might find pink, you will find those colors. But when the Lord is finished within your color, there's no name for your color in the box. You stand out, you are that ideal one.

SPEAKER_01: 10:31

Ah, that is so so powerful. So powerful. Broken kinds still cover color. And as you're saying, when God is ready to use it, your color is not in the box, and you are that ideal person, your colour might not have a name, but surely it has a call on it, and God will use that broken place for his glory and for his honor. And so I hear you're talking about obedience, so that the obedience to make that move, the obedience to make that walk, not not sure where you're going or the place that you're going, you don't want to go there, but the obedience to go and do, and with the understanding as well that you still can colour. Your colour might not be in the box or or or in that sense honestly that someone might write you off and think that you have no purpose, you have no value, but God sees the purpose, God sees the value, and God has a greater calling on your life. And you talk about the book being your your your your therapy session. My hope too is that as people read this book, that it will also be their therapy session as well. That it will be a place for them to see themselves in the light of what God is saying, to heal from whatever trauma they have been through, because we are two different persons and our stories might sound the same, but they are not the same. But it can help to make a difference in someone else's life. So we talk about you know being obedient and just moving to go somewhere where you know that God wants you to go, but you are resistant to go. What was your biggest struggle?

SPEAKER_02: 12:27

Moving away from my kid.

SPEAKER_01: 12:40

Okay, we're gonna put a pause in that one, and I'm gonna ask you something else for a sister, right? That's struggling with that Abrahamic call that God has placed on her life for her to leave where she is and to go somewhere else, and she is really struggling to be obedient to that. What would you say to her?

SPEAKER_03: 13:08

From my from my experience, I would say like you just asked that I told you. And uh on my on my journey, I have learned, you know, some some move, some some act of obedience is gonna require just you and the Lord, you know, and if you're married, that's a different case because when you're married, God is a covenant keeping God. When you're married, it's your husband or your wife, you know, because God honors his word, and the two is no longer two but one another of God. So, you know, that for for certain you're gonna carry your wife or your husband everywhere you're going, but your children are gonna get a life of their own. So I would say to that, you know, see God. It's not gonna be easy because it wasn't easy, but I I can tell persons I have always have uh Elisha anointing on my life, though there are just seasons that I there's this pulling, like Elijah, Elisha going going behind Elijah. There was there's just this pulling that I I can't explain, but when I reach that season of my life, I just have to move. I just have to move. And that was where I was. And you know, when you learn about how the Lord operates, because Jeremiah 29 verse 11 tells you, and the word of God cannot lie, he will not set you up to fail. You have to trust her, you have to sometimes go back to that that that place that he showed up, and he showed up in excellence and say, Hey, if you did it for me this time, why won't you do it again for me and next time? And just say, Hey, I'm gonna step in the unknown. Come to me. I trust you, Lord. Surrender in our arms wide open, saying, God, I surrender to your will and to your way because what I might want, your will and your way will supersede what I am settling for now to have your will, it thy will be done.

SPEAKER_01: 15:28

So basically, what I'm hearing you say is surrendering to God's will, let his will be done in your lives because we would want our own will to be done, but if that's not what God wants, then that's not going to that's not going to work. And I just want to when I listen to you just sharing that story and talking about what your biggest challenge would be, and knowing that the sacrifice of you know leaving your kids to do something to be obedient to what God is doing and where you know God is taking you. I can only just allude you for that because I've had the same experience as well, and so I know that's a tough decision to make, but one that God will honor because that's just who He is. And so for those persons as you just encourage them to say, listen, you have to trust God's will and God's timing, and you make you say if it's your husband, you're both gonna make that decision because later on your kids, you know, you make as much choice of your children as possible, but your husband and you will have to come to a decision about what has to be done. You know, as I get back to the book, right? I I there is something that I actually wanted to read in that first very first chapter that I have. It says that you wanted you basically wanted another child and you lost that child, and the a whirlwind of events unfolded in March of that year. After you lost the baby, you realize that a child was not a part of God's plan for you in that moment. You were devastated and you were furious, and you were asking and crying out to God, why would he allow that to happen? Why would he take the baby away? And you said he reminded you of who was really in control and that his plans didn't align with the ones that you had for yourself, and God wanted you to embark on a journey, but you were so angry. You declined the offer, not realizing that it was him. What was that like for you?

SPEAKER_02: 17:58

Oh God, oh my god, just imagine. Just imagine it's what it says.

SPEAKER_03: 18:06

My ways are not your ways, are my cat, your fat, and just imagine you're settling because you are you're you're battling with the spirit of rejection, the spiritual abandonment, the spirit of wanting to be love, wanting to fit into anything that comes that looks like love, you you you you adapt and you accept all when when when it's not because it's it's it's what you love, and uh, I got pregnant. I got pregnant. Listen, was in the relationship, and this man get somebody else pregnant, and uh oh my god, it was a whirling, and I still wanted to get pregnant, and I got pregnant. And uh I remember going to my doctor's, I remember an incident happened and that set me in stress. And I saw this part, and I saw the sign, but I was just open because I said, God, if you I waited so long, so I don't think you're you're gonna I can I I don't think I can lose a baby because I never lost a baby before. I never did an abortion before or nothing like that. So that was afterbirth, and then when I went to my doctor's visit, and he said, Oh no, I ultra some losing the baby. I was numb on that bed. I was numb. I was I was there physically, but mentally, I was like a ghost, like God, why? The questions came, why, how, then why would you give it to me and then take it back? It wasn't adding up why if you are God, why? How could you be God and do something like that? Why would you want to cause pain? But I learned, I later on learned that God is a jealous God, and when he wants your attention, he will do the things to get your attention, you know, and uh that is when I started to learn, you know, after when everybody started to write the book, I learned about idolizing because I was idolizing this man, even over my own self, because I wanted to make him happy. But what about Jody's happiness? What about me?

SPEAKER_01: 20:30

Jody, you know, as you said that that's that I know that would have been must have been a very painful time, and even just you know, understanding that that that time that baby was not in God's will for your life, and I know that must have hurt. But you know, what I like is the fact that you took the time to realize that what to hear what God was saying to you, that it was a matter of idolizing. So baby won't be coming because you idolize someone and because you wanted the man to be happy, so you wanted to do this, not even thinking about your own self, your own needs, you know what would make you happy, what would your life be like? So thank you for that openness and that transparency to share that as well. And I know that a part of your journey, guys, I want you to get her book, and it's available on Amazon and Bands and Nobles, and I think Books a Million and anywhere books are sold is Journey only by God's grace by Jody and Hutchinson. Jody, now I know that since writing this book, you have gone to study for NLP. 10 minutes about that journey into life coaching and then adding the NLP portion to it.

SPEAKER_03: 21:56

So I was online and I saw the course to do a life coach, and I was like, life coach, and I remember that you're a life coach. And I said, life coach, like you know, and then I need some research, and I said, Garden why, but then you know, he brought me back and showed me you're already doing this because I have females that are I some I mentor, some you know, just some people into some who find who it's comfortable for them to call and talk to me. So it's not even on the aspect of for what you would say, no, for career-wise, but it's more on the aspect for ministry-wise, you know, you're the kingdom of God because you went through you went through these issues, so you can you can relate to these younger females, you know, and who are encouraged. The NLP, it's now it's now going in the mind because you know the Bible tells us that we're just not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against rulers in dark places, and we know that it's the mind. So really we battle with emotions. When I look at where I am coming from and my childhood trauma, you know, being molested, getting pregnant at age 16, and having a child at age 17, seeking the love of my mother and my father, you know, dropping out of high school, having a being a teenage mom, you know, all of that. So I I know I know the foundation of the hurt and the things that these these young females battle with. So I have been through it. Not everybody likes therapies, therapy. Yeah, not everybody has the privilege to do the work. Like for me, my therapist told me that I the um I did one session and she said, Listen, you only need one session. If you want more, I can give it to you. But I see where the Holy Ghost is is leading you and you're doing the work. So some persons are gonna run from the pain. Meanwhile, I face the pain. I rather cry, boohoo, crying and do the work. I get the work done. You understand, but not everybody. So life coaching and the NLP, I can go what most persons will look at. Like you have you have a teenage girls and boys who Jamaican society will see a little girl start to to act out and behave certainly, and they will say, Oh, she one boyfriend or a little young boy, and oh, a body monga bad, and not knowing that behind them is the emotions that they don't know how to how to put out there. So they they the emotion gets the best of them and they start to act out, but nobody's looking beyond what they're seeing. Meanwhile, the Lord prepared me to go beyond the physical and look, okay, this child is hurting, or this woman is dealing with childhood trauma, the younger version, the 15-year-old, is is now showing up in a 25-year-old, and although she's 25 personally seen a 25-year-old, but me is seeing a 15-year-old who needs closure. Okay, so that's what I mean. Go beyond because you go deep in the mind to rewire the mind.

SPEAKER_01: 25:30

Yes, yes, and yes. So let me just say that the it's the neuralist linguistic programming, which as I said, it operates on the premise that there is a connection between neurological processes, how the brain works, along with how we speak and think, and the behavior patterns, which can be changed at specific goals. And you just said all of that. So when we see our youth operate in a particular way, we we're not thinking about maybe the trauma that they've been through, what is taking place in their brain. So look at how your background really prepares you for this journey for being a life coach and just adding that extra lay on it so that you're able to see more than just this the sound or the conversation that comes from someone's mouth, but also what's taking place in the mind. So, Jody, I want to also go back to the book, right? If I were to ask you which chapter stood out to you the most in the book, which chapter would it be?

SPEAKER_02: 26:36

Which chapter would it be? I don't even remember, but I don't I don't remember exactly what the chapter is.

SPEAKER_03: 26:42

But is it a chapter? Let them find it, but go ahead. She just got pregnant, um, had a miscarriage, and the Lord praised her and an Abraham turning, so she had learned her lesson, but no, I did not learn my lesson. I ended up in a next relationship, I ended up in a next relationship, ladies, gentlemen. When you're seeking love, when you're seeking love from the from the world, and you don't have it on the inside of you, it is a dangerous thing, and in this chapter, it is it's most love. Listen, this book is a lot of it because the Lord me to be raw and authentic, and I was I I hid nothing, it was my whole truth, it is my truth, and I remember I wrote, I said each time I had a car, um me and my ex had an argument, I would pack the garbage back in the garbage. Have nothing on me because I would pack them only to unpack them back, saying I'm leaving this relationship with ending up unpacking the garbage bags, not going anywhere until the Lord had to move this man out of my way, move him out of my way, and even when the Lord moved him out of my way and said it's time for me to leave, he's all his house. I did not want to leave. I didn't want to leave, and that it would lead you into where I went in. I went, I was one year out of a relationship in my singleness, and uh I would pray, and you know, it believed that close relationship with God and persons, you know, if you can the peace. When I hear a person said the Bible said the peace of God that surpasses all understanding, listen to me. It's a place where you don't want to come out because I know I cheated and I don't want to give nobody it for free. And uh God, I want that husband in a thing because I know I have the wife qualities and you know all of that. And I said, I want a husband, but I want a husband. I want my husband to love me like Jesus of the church, but but I am placing my desires on the table, but let thy will be done. Listen, when the the the the the man fitting to the to the criteria that I asked for showed up. I I I didn't know what I was asking for, I wasn't ready for it. In the book, I shaved that card. I said, Listen, this man will tell you 10 times a day, I love you. And I went back to God. I said, God, this I think this man is crazy because there's no possible way for one person every phone call, they call, they tell it that they love you. I said, I don't think he's okay, he's crazy. And the Lord reminded me, did you remember? Prayer that you pray for, and I said yes, and he said, Okay, and that was when I he teached me that when you pray for something, you ask for the capacity to maintain that which you prayed for. Those two parts is a lot, but those two parts is a lot of persons call me about, you know, those.

SPEAKER_01: 30:29

Ah, so Jodie, I really want to thank you for just being transparent and authentic in your conversation today. And I'm sure our listeners are looking forward to reading the book and in particular those two chapters, because you know, we all want to have a spouse and someone who loves loves God, loves God and loves us like the way how God loves the church and give himself for us. I want to give you the opportunity to give final word to someone or just to pray over someone before me to my final word.

SPEAKER_02: 31:06

I'll take the word, take the word. My final word.

SPEAKER_03: 31:13

I will say, dwell in the word of God, dwell in the word of God, you know, place yourself daily at his altar. You know, ask him to search the most inner parts of you, your heart and your mind. You know, sometimes we pray the pray the prayer, we sing the songs, we, you know, we offer worship and we get carried away and we don't even know that hey, you you're you're meeting you're coming in agreement with the Lord. And I will say, submit, submission, submit, because the process, I'm not gonna say it is easy serving the Lord, it's not easy, but it is worth it because you're dying to flesh and becoming who the Lord created you to be. All of the accolades that I have achieved the Jodi five years ago would never dream. I would never dream or even pursue even one of these because I never deemed myself fit to do either. My mind never came across any of these to do but God. Submit yourself to the process. David said, Yeah, do I walk there the shadow of death? It's just a shadow. Look at your shadow, he can't overtake you because the word of God tells us that we are overcomers, we are conquerors through Christ Jesus. And what I liked about what I like about Psalms 23 when David said that, and the Lord showed me, He had a posture of endurance. Back in his days, he couldn't have donkey or an ass to write, but he walked, so he endured his process. And what happened in verse 4, he never knew that the Lord would be at table for him in the presence of his enemies. And sometimes obedience is gonna require you to leave some persons at a place like Abraham in Genesis 22 and come back. Some persons can't go all the way, some persons journey, you're gonna have to shake them off. The Lord's gonna say they can't go, they can't go, they're only setbacks, they're only hindurances. I just find that one scripture that when you're going through, you can feel you can you can use that scripture because he will say I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Sometimes when my mind is going crazy, I say, I put my hand on my head and I declare about my mind I have a mind of Christ. Speak strength, you speak strength over yourself, and God will do the rest.

SPEAKER_01: 33:47

Amen. Amen. What a fitting word to close our podcast with on today, Jody. I just want to thank you for saying yes and for leaving those closing words to us. I think what has been resonating throughout today's episode is really a life and an act of obedience, allowing God to do his work through us. And so I want to tell my liters thank you so much for listening today. I hope that Jodi's testimony has been a blessing to you. The conversation that we had today was a blessing to you, and that you go and get her books on Amazon and on the platform that I named earlier. And Jodi, in a few seconds, can you tell me where on social media if they wanna find you that they can follow you? If you want to share that before I quickly break.

SPEAKER_03: 34:42

Instagram is only by God's grace.

SPEAKER_01: 34:45

Okay, awesome. So you can find her by God's grace. So you can find her on IGS only and only by God's grace. So Lord, I just wanna thank you for today's episode. I thank you for Jody. I thank you for what you're doing in her life, Almighty God. I thank you for her obedience to serve you, Almighty God, and to follow you. I pray for my sisters who are listening to this episode today. I pray, Lord God, that's something in this conversation today, Lord God, always deep in their hearts, that they learn to trust you, Lord God, if they don't see funny of themselves, if they've counted themselves old to be reminded, Almighty God, that you call none of us old, Almighty God, and that you have a plan and a purpose for our lives. We love you and we honor you in Jesus' name. Amen and amen.